Talk:Religion

Atheist/Agnostic (5th Religion)
So, I noticed in RC that there's been some disagreement over the nomenclature currently being used for the 5th religious group; i.e. what should we be calling them until we know what their official name is? I'm assuming that the group will have a proper name announced next week when the tribe releases for the Yoru and Owem come out, so in all likelihood this won't be a long-term debate, but here are my observations on the matter:


 * I went back through the Discord logs and looked over a conversation from 24 Oct. 2016 where, as the IP user stated, Caspian does refer to the 5th group as "atheist" and goes over his reasoning for calling them such. More on this in a second.
 * Based on the description given on this page (which I don't have a source for,) I would interpret that the 5th group is definitely not "agnostic." If they truly do acknowledge the existence of the other religions' gods, then "agnostic" is clearly not the right term for them.
 * Here's where it might get controversial: Despite Caspian's insistence, it seems to me that the 5th group is definitely not "atheist" either, assuming again that the statements made in this article are correct and that the facts have not changed since the article was written. Again, if these people believe in the existence of a creator or creators, even those of another religion, that is decidedly not an atheistic belief system. In fact, that's the definition of theism.
 * If I had to use a single phrase to describe their beliefs, it seems to me that it would be something along the lines of omnistic deism. That is, "all or many religions' gods exist (or may exist) but they do not influence the world." Of course, this doesn't make a very good page title.

Obviously, all of this is contingent upon the new information that we're expecting to get next week. If the group gets an official proper name, then that solves the issue, and we know what to call them. If not, we can have further discussion on the matter. Either way, I'd suggest that we refrain from edit-warring over this page and simply leave it as-is until we have more information. Really, this entire article is one big Citation needed since all of this is IRC/Discord info and no public releases have been made on it, so speculating at this point doesn't really accomplish much. --Imshada (talk) 22:45, 3 June 2017 (UTC)